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	<title>Comments on: City Bike Projects Update</title>
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		<title>By: william hiner</title>
		<link>http://www.whatsgoingdowntown.com/2009/03/21/city-bike-projects-update/comment-page-1/#comment-12440</link>
		<dc:creator>william hiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>build a bmx park</description>
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		<title>By: Greg Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.whatsgoingdowntown.com/2009/03/21/city-bike-projects-update/comment-page-1/#comment-9851</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our present day road laws were originally developed for bicycle traffic back in the day so, yeah I do have the same rights as folks who drive cars.  Also, when I&#039;m not driving one of my five vehicles that I pay plenty of taxes on every year I&#039;m riding my bike saving the planet.  Also, since I live out in Timbuktwo, when I want to ride the Greenway, I have to haul my bikes in.  I&#039;m still paying my fair share of taxes for the bike riding that I&#039;m doing.  Bottom line is, bikers have the very same rights as drivers.  There are way more poor drivers on the road than poor bikers.  Give the bikers a break!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our present day road laws were originally developed for bicycle traffic back in the day so, yeah I do have the same rights as folks who drive cars.  Also, when I&#8217;m not driving one of my five vehicles that I pay plenty of taxes on every year I&#8217;m riding my bike saving the planet.  Also, since I live out in Timbuktwo, when I want to ride the Greenway, I have to haul my bikes in.  I&#8217;m still paying my fair share of taxes for the bike riding that I&#8217;m doing.  Bottom line is, bikers have the very same rights as drivers.  There are way more poor drivers on the road than poor bikers.  Give the bikers a break!</p>
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		<title>By: Ambivalent</title>
		<link>http://www.whatsgoingdowntown.com/2009/03/21/city-bike-projects-update/comment-page-1/#comment-5447</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambivalent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have mixed emotions about all of this. As far as downtown bike riders go, fine by me. As as they obey the law, signal properly, have the proper reflective devices, etc... let &#039;em ride. 

On the other hand let&#039;s take Bass Road. Why any idiot would want to ride from Scott Road east down Bass is beyond me, (there is no shoulder to speak of). I run into a guy that does this several times a week. He thinks he&#039;s riding in a car. He drives right down the middle of the lane and sometimes the cars pileup behind him 8-10 deep. It&#039;s almost impossible on that stretch to pass so we&#039;re left going 12-15 MPH for several miles. This to me should be a ticketable  offense for obstructing traffic. With all of the trails in Aboite, he should be required to use them. 

And to borrow a phrase from Andy. I&#039;ve also seen this same Asshat in his pretty little biking tights riding down Illinois Road west from Scott Road. What an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have mixed emotions about all of this. As far as downtown bike riders go, fine by me. As as they obey the law, signal properly, have the proper reflective devices, etc&#8230; let &#8216;em ride. </p>
<p>On the other hand let&#8217;s take Bass Road. Why any idiot would want to ride from Scott Road east down Bass is beyond me, (there is no shoulder to speak of). I run into a guy that does this several times a week. He thinks he&#8217;s riding in a car. He drives right down the middle of the lane and sometimes the cars pileup behind him 8-10 deep. It&#8217;s almost impossible on that stretch to pass so we&#8217;re left going 12-15 MPH for several miles. This to me should be a ticketable  offense for obstructing traffic. With all of the trails in Aboite, he should be required to use them. </p>
<p>And to borrow a phrase from Andy. I&#8217;ve also seen this same Asshat in his pretty little biking tights riding down Illinois Road west from Scott Road. What an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.whatsgoingdowntown.com/2009/03/21/city-bike-projects-update/comment-page-1/#comment-5377</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 02:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, you are an asshat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, you are an asshat.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric S.</title>
		<link>http://www.whatsgoingdowntown.com/2009/03/21/city-bike-projects-update/comment-page-1/#comment-4693</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are they not riding safe, or are you not driving safe?  You&#039;ve already admitted you don&#039;t want to share the road with cyclists.  What exactly do you mean by bicyclists not riding safe?  I&#039;ll admit I&#039;ve seen a few riding against traffic, but educating everyone, cyclists and drivers, on cycling would be even more beneficial than just the cyclists.

You don&#039;t have to be a good citizen, you&#039;re right.  But when you start putting people&#039;s lives in danger because you refuse to allow them on the road, even though they have all of the legal rights to be there, you cross the line from being a terrible citizen to criminal.

How do you know that cyclist education wasn&#039;t part of the conversation at the summit?  This is almost as important as driver education, but when I and many others are riding safe, it&#039;s the uneducated drivers that have more power to injure and kill a rider.  You don&#039;t hear of cyclists killing motor vehicle operators.

Is it that hard to be aware of your surroundings while driving a motor vehicle, I mean you are moving a large mass of metal at a high rate of speed down a road that may contain any number of other large masses of metal?  Is it that hard to slow down and wait for oncoming traffic to pass before you move over to go around a cyclist?  How much time does that take?  Maximum 3 minutes?  Sorry for the inconvenience. 

I pay taxes that go towards roads.  Your wheel tax doesn&#039;t come near paying for upkeep and construction of roads.  When I ride my bike, I&#039;m doing less damage and decreasing congestion.  Cyclists should be PAID to ride rather than drive.  The only drawback would be that driver would have to become more aware while driving.  They need to do that anyways.

You want to put wheel taxes and registration fees on bicycles?  Fine.  When you do, I&#039;m taking my entire lane, because according to you it seems that I&#039;m only paying a portion of it or none at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they not riding safe, or are you not driving safe?  You&#8217;ve already admitted you don&#8217;t want to share the road with cyclists.  What exactly do you mean by bicyclists not riding safe?  I&#8217;ll admit I&#8217;ve seen a few riding against traffic, but educating everyone, cyclists and drivers, on cycling would be even more beneficial than just the cyclists.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to be a good citizen, you&#8217;re right.  But when you start putting people&#8217;s lives in danger because you refuse to allow them on the road, even though they have all of the legal rights to be there, you cross the line from being a terrible citizen to criminal.</p>
<p>How do you know that cyclist education wasn&#8217;t part of the conversation at the summit?  This is almost as important as driver education, but when I and many others are riding safe, it&#8217;s the uneducated drivers that have more power to injure and kill a rider.  You don&#8217;t hear of cyclists killing motor vehicle operators.</p>
<p>Is it that hard to be aware of your surroundings while driving a motor vehicle, I mean you are moving a large mass of metal at a high rate of speed down a road that may contain any number of other large masses of metal?  Is it that hard to slow down and wait for oncoming traffic to pass before you move over to go around a cyclist?  How much time does that take?  Maximum 3 minutes?  Sorry for the inconvenience. </p>
<p>I pay taxes that go towards roads.  Your wheel tax doesn&#8217;t come near paying for upkeep and construction of roads.  When I ride my bike, I&#8217;m doing less damage and decreasing congestion.  Cyclists should be PAID to ride rather than drive.  The only drawback would be that driver would have to become more aware while driving.  They need to do that anyways.</p>
<p>You want to put wheel taxes and registration fees on bicycles?  Fine.  When you do, I&#8217;m taking my entire lane, because according to you it seems that I&#8217;m only paying a portion of it or none at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce DeVore</title>
		<link>http://www.whatsgoingdowntown.com/2009/03/21/city-bike-projects-update/comment-page-1/#comment-4687</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce DeVore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Eric S. 

The best part is, is that I don&#039;t have to!  Ha!

A vast majority of people who ride a bike in Fort Wayne, have no idea how to ride safe. Why don&#039;t you promote a safe riding academy in order to educate them on safe riding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Eric S. </p>
<p>The best part is, is that I don&#8217;t have to!  Ha!</p>
<p>A vast majority of people who ride a bike in Fort Wayne, have no idea how to ride safe. Why don&#8217;t you promote a safe riding academy in order to educate them on safe riding?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.whatsgoingdowntown.com/2009/03/21/city-bike-projects-update/comment-page-1/#comment-4653</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce - 

At least you lived to tell the tale.  Many cyclists/pedestrians who have been hit or run over by motor vehicles weren&#039;t as fortunate.    

If we can create some awareness and save a few lives in the process, why not do it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce &#8211; </p>
<p>At least you lived to tell the tale.  Many cyclists/pedestrians who have been hit or run over by motor vehicles weren&#8217;t as fortunate.    </p>
<p>If we can create some awareness and save a few lives in the process, why not do it ?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet you still won&#039;t share the road, promoting dangerous conditions for cyclist.

You Sir are a stellar citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet you still won&#8217;t share the road, promoting dangerous conditions for cyclist.</p>
<p>You Sir are a stellar citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce DeVore</title>
		<link>http://www.whatsgoingdowntown.com/2009/03/21/city-bike-projects-update/comment-page-1/#comment-4649</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce DeVore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been run over, ruptured spleen, broke the windshield, had both wheels knocked off the bike, spent a week in the hospital. Been there, done that. No need for a lecture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been run over, ruptured spleen, broke the windshield, had both wheels knocked off the bike, spent a week in the hospital. Been there, done that. No need for a lecture.</p>
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		<title>By: Mbadgett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mbadgett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a bad idea Cole. Be sure to stay within the county for which you paid the wheel tax though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a bad idea Cole. Be sure to stay within the county for which you paid the wheel tax though.</p>
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